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^ For what it's worth, just a note that the above paragraphs are AI generated, as can be easily inferred by the author's replies below.

Given that not all information is public in this scenario, there is no choice but to construct theories that are plausible regardless of the gaps in evidence; such is the basic nature of investing and economics both. Is your objection that available evidence was excluded that you consider to be materially relevant, or that theories were constructed when we don’t have the complete story, or..?

The problem isn’t theorising itself, investing is full of it. The issue is when speculation is presented with the tone and certainty of established fact. The article doesn’t merely offer possibilities in light of missing data; it states mechanisms and outcomes as though the evidence for them is already in hand. So the objection isn’t to building a model, but to blurring the line between assumption and demonstration, and to glossing over the range of alternative explanations that the same incomplete information could support.

Hmm. Well, I didn't see any particular weaknesses in the evidence, but I'm already assuming all discussion of this topic is forward-looking conjecture by third parties with incomplete knowledge until either Nvidia internal data leaks, or they get penalized by the SEC. Still, scanning the article, here are key phrases that should have indicated 'this is an opinion' to readers:

> Here is my take

'take' is a fancy word for 'opinionated interpretation', implying opinion.

> even just connecting the dots myself (with the help of Gemini)

If an AI was involved in producing this writing, it could be whole-cloth fiction, so I certainly would not attribute factualness to anything in the entire post that I didn't have an independent source for. Others would differ, but even setting aside this particular point, there are so many more.

> it feels like their biggest customers

This does not particularly give confidence that they're stating facts. If they were stating facts, they would say simply "their biggest customers are" without the weakening-disclaimer language of "it feels like" or "I suspect that" or etc.

> My personal read?

This is explicitly a rhetorical device indicating personal interpretation of the three pieces of data listed above, cited from their published financials. Obviously one should double-check the financials to confirm that "Gemini" didn't make shit up, but either these three bulleted-list items are factually erroneous, debatable interpretations, or factually correct. This can be specifically addressed if desired.

> I didn't discover this next part

The author is summarizing someone else's work here. I've read other authors on the same topic as well. This is not, as I would say, 'primary source' material, and if their interpretation is bogus, it's on me for relying on it (cc Gemini involvement) rather than tracking down the original sources (which I did, earlier).

> they look more like

This is a normal personal interpretation signifier.

> my guess is

This is an explicit theorising signifier.

And so, having done that exercise and read through the entire post, I fail to identify claims made by the author that are "presented with the tone and certainty of established fact". The author presents zero facts, as far as I can tell, in a plain reading. Am I missing some specific instance where they make a factual claim that isn't unambiguously weakened by the repeated contextual 'this is opinion, this is interpretation, referring to the work of others, published financials' clues that are present throughout, regardless of how one interprets the stated use of Gemini?

This is, I think, at the core of where I'm confused about your opinions here today. You've stated opinions about the work — and yes, even a neutral summary is opinionated! — but even this far deep in the discussion, you still haven't referred to actual segments of the actual work to explain how you reached your opinion. When my reply is confusion — i.e., "I don't follow, could you refer to specific quotes from the post?" to each of your objections: "when speculation is presented", "it states mechanisms and outcomes", "blurring the line between assumption and demonstration", and "glossing over the range of alternative explanations" — then I certainly empathize with others who refuse to respond. I've tried my very best to give you the benefit of doubt, but I'm just lost at this point; your opinion is unsupported general statements with zero specifics, and armchair dentistry is not most people's idea of fun when it comes to getting someone to explain how they formed an opinion (especially in today's world where "an AI generated these confusingly-general statements" is a high-probability outcome).

Perhaps an example will help convey the confusion.

> The issue is when speculation is presented with the tone and certainty of established fact. The article doesn’t merely offer possibilities in light of missing data; it states mechanisms and outcomes as though the evidence for them is already in hand. So the objection isn’t to building a model, but to blurring the line between assumption and demonstration, and to glossing over the range of alternative explanations that the same incomplete information could support.

Regarding one of your claims in your comment, I agree with your interpretation of the post itself, but I do not share your negative opinion of that interpretation.

My above paragraph is completely serious. I mean every word of it, and it's not a constructed example. It's an actual response I had to your post. How would you respond? Most people would ask, 'Which claim led you to that interpretation?', and that's precisely the question that I'm left with for each of your interpretations here today. That's why I chose it as an example: it's a content-free opinion, that carries only judgment but not content or meaning. Without the essential core of what I'm disagreeing with, what use is it to you that I disagree at all? What useful contribution have I made?

I hope this will help set you on a more productive course with the HN community for future posts.


This is definitely an AI response that wasn't even reviewed. The word "moat" doesn't even exist in the article but you have put it in quotes.

I'm sorry, but did you ask ChatGPT or another LLM to critique this article?

It was a straightforward critique of the article’s claims

Given the lack of denial to the straightforward question, you're probably safe in reading this as "yes it was indeed AI generated".

That does...answer tge question?

not an attempt to pass off anything as my own

then stop wasting peoples time with slop

if i wanted to read llm output i'd go dump it into chatgpt into myself


Do I need to explain the meaning of not?

Your AI generated summaries have been repeatedly flagged by HN users. They do not add value to the discussion.

If only they were

If you think this comment was not written by the account holder or that account sales are occurring, please do as asked by the guidelines in such cases and contact the mods to report that, instead of posting about it in a discussion.

I wouldn't know if account sales was occurring, my first thought was that they sincerely wanted to have AI critique this article and post here. I don't think it is a good enough reason for me personally to flag.

I think if someone was trying to use AI to farm they wouldn't post these types of critiques, but something safer rather.

But I did wanted to see what their reasoning for posting those AI critiques was, and they answered, so I got my curiousity satisifed to an extent.


Moderators already told OP to stop and OP did not stop.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46179328


Irrelevant; “If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data.” and especially “Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead.” both apply.

Thank you

So are we just disallowing multi-paragraph comments now?

If it's fully AI generated, perhaps add a disclaimer to it?

It is discouraged to post AI-generated comments to Hacker News, even if disclosed.

definitely reads like it... what is the point lol? Can you sell HN accounts or something?

The point was simply to analyse the argument on its merits

By word salad, ?



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