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> Coding bootcamps have been a mainstay in Silicon Valley for more than a decade. Now, as AI eliminates the kind of entry-level roles for which they trained people, they’re disappearing.

OK, so I think there is a fair chance it will play out like this: the younger generation won't study CS anymore / learn how to code. Instead, they'll all vibe code.

This will lead to a massive increase in demand for seniors to clean up the vibe code, which isn't working properly or needs maintenance.

This demand increase will be exacerbated by the fact that there will be no new seniors since no one learned how to code...

Fun times ahead.



Google and friends hugely over hired during the pandemic and people are extrapolating that a medium term culling is the new normal.

Same after the dot com crash and outsourcing. Give it 5 years and hiring will be back to normal. Give it 10 and salaries will be even more stratospheric because the pipeline is bone dry now.


The all-too-typical arc of things like this:

Before a big shift: “What could possibly go wrong?”

After a big shift and facing unintended consequences: “How were we supposed to know?”


People were saying this about coding bootcamps just a little while ago! "All of these bootcamp coders don't really know what they're doing and us seniors will have to clean up after them". Same with outsourcing before that. Most people (seniors included) suck at coding. AI is already better than all but the the very best. It will continue to improve.


I'm tired and bored yo remove eval from codecamp and ai agent code. Now every fucking sprint has a few jira shit cards with titles like "fix the bug introduced by ai, fix performance issue from bootcampers. This is not what i became a code monkey for. Get me out of programming!!! This current time driven development mixed with fix the above shit Is making me crazy


What did you become a code monkey for?


Yes, I was told in 2001 that I was never going to make a dime programming due to a combination of the dotcom crash and all the huge tech companies focusing on outsourcing.

I'm not sure how bringing up outsourcing helps what you're saying, because tech salaries went ballistic shortly after outsourcing became popular.


My point is people keep saying the same thing throughout different eras and the truth is the quality of code has always been low. If anything, ai is going to greatly improve it.


So there is a clear pattern but "this time is different"?

Funny how that was also said at those times.


Well have developer salaries grown over this period when outsourcing and bootcamps became prevalent?


There's going to be so much vibe coding to clean up, that I'm gonna have a fever and the only prescription is, more vibe coding! (throwback to SNL More Cowbells skit...)

On a serious note, can't wait to see what salaries I command as a senior dev in a few years...when junior dev pipeline dried up and other older seniors left the industry.


> Fun times ahead.

Assuming you find cleaning up vibe (legacy) code fun haha


I think there will be a lot of people just throwing out the codebase and vibe coding it again from scratch.


I'm hoping I can escape being laid off for long enough for them to come around again and realize they need me to clean up the slop. And then I can capitalize on it.

More likely, they'll lay everyone off and with some luck start hiring them back at same or lower salaries and tell us we're lucky to even have a job, and we'll have no choice but to accept...




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