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I have an ID4 around that price, it keeps the lane and has a lane change assist. Is there any special sauce to autopilot?


Even a current Toyota Corolla has lane assistance but turning it on, settings etc are just better at the Tesla model 3 I drive. Lane keeping is good, haptic and audio feedback are good. The Toyota has haptic steering wheel feedback that I have not figured out yet, it steers but also leaves the lane. The Toyota chirms/acoustic sounds appear to me not used consistently across different functions, sound too similar or not warning enough. Admittedly this can all be personal choice and getting used to.


ID4 was at least $10k more expensive in Oct 2024, with worse driving performance.


ID4's price seems to be $42k in the US? How much is the Model Y? Or did ID4's price decrease to $42k recently?


They added a new tier and dropped some and increased some.

https://www.carscoops.com/2025/02/vw-ditches-base-2025-id-4-...

I was comparing a 3 row model Y AWD with tow hitch to AWD Pro ID.4 and ID.4 was coming in close to $50k, both with the federal tax credit. And the ID.4 lacked the 3rd row seating. I am also biased against European vehicles because I assume they will be more maintenance/expensive. I had a bunch of people recommend Model Y to me, and I trusted Tesla's electric vehicle making experience more than VW.


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I will be the first to say Elon is a Nazi and shouldn’t be in a leadership position.

But it’s crazy to claim Model 3 and Y are not competitively priced products that are usable for many, many people.

And I will also say I would not currently pay extra for a high end Tesla. But on the cheap end, and with the far superior buying experience without a stealership in the middle, it is welcome competition to the incumbent automakers.


What's your evidence that he's a nazi? Waving at a crowd doesn't count btw.


Oh it’s waving?

You should upload a video of yourself doing it. Do it right now if it’s not a Nazi salute.

I’ll wait for your upload.


I would be shocked if ID4 had comparable driver assistance features. Even Audis are pretty shaky and unreliable. Tesla’s seem to be a few generations ahead




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