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> A browser should care about not just the users, but also the rest of the people in the ecosystem.

Hard disagree. A browser is supposed to be my user agent. It is supposed to work for me. It should not be engaging in compromises to my wishes in order to benefit others.

> Chrome should try and improve the ecosystem.

I think that there is much disagreement about what "improving the ecosystem" would look like.



>I think that there is much disagreement about what "improving the ecosystem" would look like.

Sure, but enabling sites to be financially viable to run is almost universally considered good. If something is not viable on the web either it will be built on another ecosystem or it won't be built at all. It ends up making the web a worse place to be and strengthens the competitors to the web.


If an industry in a very competitive market is polluting rivers we don't find a way to maintain its ability to pollute, we stop the pollution through rigorous action while trying to keep it competitive.

If collectively we decide that intrusive advertising has to go and we need to more directly pay for labour online, then so be it. It doesn't necessarily have to stay the old way forever.


> enabling sites to be financially viable to run is almost universally considered good.

That isn't what's on the table, though. This impacts the ability to target ads. Targeted ads are absolutely not required for a website to be financially viable.

> If something is not viable on the web either it will be built on another ecosystem or it won't be built at all.

The history of the web demonstrates that this isn't true. There's an excluded middle there.

> It ends up making the web a worse place to be and strengthens the competitors to the web.

What are the competitors to the web?

But aside from that, in my opinion, advertising has made the web a much worse place as it is. Advertising has made the web more like interactive cable TV, and limits the variety of activities because only the ones advertisers approve of are effectively allowed.


>Targeted ads are absolutely not required for a website to be financially viable.

There is a subset of sites where it is required. Or at least it is with how much resources they are investing into the site and free services they offer.

>What are the competitors to the web?

The biggest competitors are Google's Play store and Apple's App store.

>Advertising has made the web more like interactive cable TV, and limits the variety of activities because only the ones advertisers approve of are effectively allowed.

The existence of sites with advertising doesn't mean that sites without advertising can't exist.




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