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You literally just described the Amish.


With their much higher fertility rate, Amish society will probably outlast ours.


I know people seem to see social factors in declining birth rate, but I mainly see economic causes. As population reduces, housing and employment become more available, meaning more people can afford to have children. A century ago more children meant more income, but now it means less. Reduce the marginal cost of children and demand will increase.


That sounds plausible, but almost everywhere in the world, wealth and fertility seem to be negatively correlated.

Poor people have kids early and have more, while rich people delay and have few or none.


I'm wondering if these statistics adjust for age. Wealthier people are usually older and therefore less fertile. Also, there may be selection bias at play here since whoever is more wealthy is more likely to prioritize their career over family & children.


Comments like these remind me of people who distrust climate models telling me (a meteorologist) what the climate model ignores, which of course it doesn’t ignore because scientists aren’t morons. There is a lot of questionable statistics in the social sciences, but I am 1000% sure that people studying fertility account for age.


Exactly. No one can afford a house and with inflation and rise in cost of living it will get worse. A lot worse.


I agree.

The more I read history, the more I realize most of the problems we have today are not new problems.

For example, in 1778, it was expected that you had to have 4 children to have one live to 18 (with medical science being what it was). We saw a 40% increase in all deaths in actuarial data during the pandemic which could align with degradation of services during that time.

In 1778, wages could never be lower than what it cost to feed and raise yourself and your children.

With the introduction of personal household debt and fiat currency, the guardrails were removed.

Business stopped having an incentive to pay fair wages when they were allowed to concentrate, and make more money through influential connections and shoddy financial engineering backed by a printing press.


I’m almost tempted to sign up. Is there a Hindu Amish?




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